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TV Broadcast #1149

Homosexuality and the Bible

October 12, 2014

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Transcript of message from TV Broadcast 1149 -- taken from Closed Captioning Text

— Brother Phil Enlow: My God, we ought to have compassion on people!

( congregational amens ).

There are powers out there that seek to destroy them, that have arrayed all kinds of cunning traps that have the power to appeal to this nature, and to the desires that God gave them! But through whatever circumstances apply to the individual, they cause those things to be turned in another way.

And one of the things you’re dealing with concerning people that we need to recognize…it’s easy to just toss off a little platitude…oh, it’s a choice. There are a lot of people who discover these kinds of desires that arise without being bidden, seemingly unwanted. They fight against them. They arise without any…so you see how the Devil is enforcing a lie. The lie is, I was born that way biologically. I was wired this way, therefore it’s legitimate. That’s the lie that’s being peddled.

But what’s going on behind the scenes, is however the circumstances, as I say, work out for the individual, you’ve got something that is being engendered from without, and probably within, too. There are spirits at work that are taking natural, God-given desires and turning them in another direction. And you wind up with people just…they finally just say, well, it must be normal and they just go that way. Lord, we need compassion for people who are in traps.

But that’s what’s pictured here. And you know, there are people out there, preachers, who will absolutely take this particular sin, they’ll focus on this one thing, and if it occurs at all, ‘it is a sign of reprobation!’ My God, everybody who’s ever been guilty of this, ‘you are reprobate, you have no hope!’

I remember early, before I came here, that brief little ministry I had…a man I knew became a friend, and that had happened to him. He’d gotten caught a little bit during his teen years in this trap. And a preacher found out about it, and that’s the line he took. You are reprobate, you are without hope. When I first met him, he was home from a visit from an institution…deep depression. And I’m happy to say, God brought him out of that.

Oh, what a lie! I was just angry when I found out about it! What a lie! You see…they’re turning this completely around! Yes, when God turns people over, these are the kinds of things…and we’ll go on here in a minute…these are the kinds of things that can result. But you can’t flip that around and say, if we have these things, therefore God has turned them over!

( congregational amens ).

Because the world is full of sinners! There’s nobody else! All have sinned! We all fall short! There’s not one of us that can look in the mirror and say, well, I’m different because I didn’t do this particular behavior or that one…I’m better or I’m different. Oh God, help us. But that’s what…oh, that made me angry. God, we don’t need that kind of a spirit. That’s just religious dogma! It’s a total misunderstanding of the Word of God, because there’s such plainness in some other passages of scripture, and the Spirit of Jesus that reached out.

But anyway, this is one thing that has resulted from human desires, not brought under the control of God’s Spirit, not used for the purposes for which He gave us those desires. What are you gonna do? We are not made to manage those things. We are not made to be able to rule over ourselves independently of Him and use God’s gifts in a way that is wholesome, to put it plain. It takes God! It doesn’t take religious dogma. It doesn’t take therapy. It takes the power, the transforming power of God’s Spirit in the heart to set people free from traps like this! And it takes His love to reach those He can reach.

But if you think this just has to do with this one thing, read on. “Furthermore, since they did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God…” Didn’t think it worthwhile…my God, I know about Him, but who cares about that? I’m gonna do my thing. “…They did not think it worthwhile to retain the knowledge of God, he gave them over….”

You have the same thought here…He gives them over. He says, all right, you don’t want Me, I’m gonna let you experience the fruit of your choices. So anyway, “…He gave them over…” (NIV). To what? “…A depraved mind.” You’ve got a mind that just doesn’t think straight. It doesn’t see straight. It’s not capable of understanding.

Why? “…To do what ought not to be done. They have become filled with every kind of wickedness….” So it isn’t just about the one thing, is it? Let’s get this in context. Let’s not say, well there are sins and then there’s this one, way up here. It isn’t that way. God doesn’t make that kind of…He doesn’t grade sins.

“They have become filled with every kind of wickedness, evil, greed and depravity.” Now, let’s see what that consists of. “They are full of envy…” Have you ever envied?

( congregation inaudible ).

Yeah. “…Murder…” Well, I don’t know if we’ve got murderers here, but praise God, God can save murderers, too. But I’ll tell you, if you’ve ever had an intense hatred rise up in your spirit toward somebody, you’re a murderer.

( congregational response ).

That’s what Jesus said. “…Strife…” ‘I would never be involved…don’t you tell me that!’ You’re striving right then. Oh my God, we do…we’re so guilty of some of these things. “…Deceit and malice.” A spirit of ill will that sort of secretly wants something bad to happen to somebody. ‘God’s-gonna-get-them’ kind of a spirit. They are…oh, here’s one! “They are gossips…” Whoa…I’m glad gossip is not a sign of reprobation.

( laughter ).

We’d have a lot of reprobates.

( laughter ).

But you see, this is all lumped together. It all flows out of the same cesspool of human nature. This is what happens when men insist that they can live apart from God! Every kind of thing comes out. Homosexuality is just one of them. “…Gossips, slanderers…” Are you gonna say stuff that’s bad and negative, and try to run somebody down? “…God-haters, insolent…” Whew! “…Arrogant and boastful.” Do you want to know what the real root of all of this is? It’s arrogance!

Let me throw this in, ‘cause you will have some people that will try to tell you that the sin of Sodom, or the reason God destroyed them was not the homosexuality part, but it was because they weren’t neighborly, they didn’t take care of one another, and they weren’t hospitable and all that kind of stuff. And they’re getting that from Ezekiel 16.

And Ezekiel 16 says, this was the sin of Sodom. And the first one was arrogance. You start with an arrogant, I-am-God-I-can-do-as-I-please spirit, you’re going to descend into other things. And so when you talk about the one thing that most people refer to, you’re talking about a consequence of a spirit. So God was going right back to the root cause of why they fell into the condition they fell. So you can’t really divorce the two. But anyway, that’s part of…people will take and twist the scriptures to try to justify.

But anyway, “…Arrogant and boastful.” Well there’s none of us that can escape these things and say, well, we’ve never been guilty of any of this. “They invent ways of doing evil; they…” Whoa! “…Disobey their parents.” That sounds like it’s out of place. In all this list of terrible things, and ‘they disobey their parents.’ You know, we better see things the way God does.

( congregational response ).

These flow out of a rebellious spirit that basically says, ‘I’m God!’

( congregation inaudible ).

‘I can govern my own life’ is right. And if I feel, if I have a desire, I have every right to try to fulfill that desire. God, don’t get in my way. And you wonder why the world is in the condition that it’s in. As I say, this is the polar opposite of God’s nature. God is love! He seeks the welfare of everyone. You get a world that is filled with His Spirit, there are pleasures that you and I have no idea…and they last forever.

( laughing ).

( congregational amens ).

And there’s no…the blessing of God, “…it maketh rich, and he addeth no sorrow with it,” the scripture says. (KJV). And everybody is equally sharing because no one is just out for themselves…everyone is just, oh…that’s the nature of God. And when that’s the nature, and it will be in the New Creation, it’s gonna be something else. Man, I want to be a part of that.

( congregational amens ).

And I have only one pathway that gets me there, and that’s Jesus and what He’s done for me. Nothing else. But anyway, “…They disobey their parents; they are senseless, faithless, heartless, ruthless.” (NIV). But here’s the condition that people can get to.

“Although they know God’s righteous decree that those who do such things deserve death, they not only continue to do these very things but also approve of those who practice them.” Boy, you’ve got people out there promoting, and by God, if you don’t acknowledge…you better celebrate the things that are going on. What kind of a spirit is behind that?

But should we despise people in that condition? God help us. They’ll turn around if you read something like this, ‘that’s hate!’ God doesn’t hate people. It’s His mercy that reaches out in truth. Oh, praise God! We just need the Spirit of God. We need truth in this area, in every area. If God’s gonna use us to help people, we need to understand some things.

But what…there’s a scripture that absolutely gives the lie to the notion that if someone is caught in the particular sin of homosexuality that is a sign they are reprobate and they have no hope. That’s a lie from Satan! And all you have to do is look over in 1st Corinthians chapter 6, to see it plainly. “Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God?”

Now these are people that this is their choice, this is the direction they are going, this defines their life…because if we’re gonna talk who have ever been guilty of anything, that includes all of us. But this is somebody who…this is the way they go, this is what they are, they live and die in this condition. They will not inherit the kingdom of God.

“Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes…” which was a part of heathen worship of that day, “…nor homosexual offenders…” That’s another scripture they love. “…Nor thieves nor the greedy…” Now that takes in a lot of folks. “…Nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.” But thank God for the next verse!

( congregational amens ).

“And that is what some of you were.” Were! That’s a message of hope!

( congregational amens ).

We don’t need to be picketing against this and against that! We need to be offering hope for those that God would reach!

( congregational amens ).

We need to have a heart that sees men the way God sees them! God loves people in all these categories! His heart longs to reach out and open a door of hope! Now if they slam that door shut and say, I will not, there’s gonna come a day when they will wish they had. But just as Jesus didn’t come into the world to condemn it, that’s not our place either. Praise God!

In the King James it’s, “…Such were some of you.” “That is what some of you were.” (NIV). But! “But you were washed, you were sanctified….” That’s set apart for God! Lifted out of that condition, set on a different course, set apart…you’re Mine now, you’re not your own! Thank God! Washed, sanctified!

“…Justified…” That’s made righteous! “…In the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.” See it’s in this particular context he goes on. He says, “Everything is permissible for me—but not everything is beneficial. Everything is permissible for me—but I will not be mastered by anything.”

Boy, the nature of sin is that it will turn you into an addict! It’s obvious with things like alcohol and drugs, but it’s true of every kind of sin. If you’re prone to anger, you’re gonna be caught like a fish, or like a little animal in a trap. If you don’t get rid of that bitterness, it’s gonna possess you, it’s gonna make a slave out of you. Anything.

“Food for the stomach and the stomach for food—but God will destroy them both. The body is not meant for sexual immorality…” So that covers the whole gamut. “…But for the Lord, and the Lord for the body.” Thank God for that! He cares about our bodies. They belong to Him. We have a right to trust Him with things.

“By his power God raised the Lord from the dead….” That’s how we know all this is true! That’s the authentication from heaven itself that every bit of truth in this Word is true! Jesus was not a religious teacher! All the religious teachers are dead! He’s alive.

“Do you not know that your bodies are members of Christ himself?” Now he’s exhorting the people of God. We’re part of Him! We’re not just little entities running around. We are so connected to Him that our bodies are actually part of Him! “Shall I then take the members of Christ and unite them with a prostitute?” That’s one example that he’s using here. “Never! Do you not know that he who unites himself with a prostitute is one with her in body? For it is said, the two will become one flesh. But he who unites himself with the Lord is one with him in spirit.

“Flee from sexual immorality. All other sins a man commits are outside his body, but he who sins sexually, sins against his own body. Do you not know that your body is a temple of the Holy Spirit, who is in you, whom you have received from God? You are not your own; you were bought at a price.”

Oh, what a price! You think of what it cost Him to open a door of hope for you and for me. The incredible price that He paid to come from Heaven’s glory and take our sin, and all the humiliation, and the pain, and the sense of separation from His Father that was dished out on Him…for me, for you. Oh my! Has He not earned the right to give us life, to be our Lord and our rescuer?

“Therefore honor God with your body.” So that’s pretty plain, isn’t it? And about the part where there are people in all kinds of categories of things we call sin…and they are…they are departures from His purpose, using His gifts in ways that He didn’t intend, and in ways that are destructive, that lead to death. And just like we wouldn’t let a child play with danger, He loves enough to tell us the truth. But yet, there’s hope—there’s hope. Now I want to look at a scripture that just…I was thinking about this and kind of running some references, and I ran into one that I hadn’t thought about in a while, and particularly in this connection. I’m gonna go ahead and turn over to Titus, because it’s amazing. I believe it gives us a real picture of how we need to think.

And I’m gonna back up into…chapter 3 is where I’m mainly going, but I want to back all the way up into verse 11, because this is instruction for us here, first of all. It defines the grace of God and what the grace of God is about. It’s not an indulgence of sin as some people almost make it. This is a real power that works to change us! It works in our hearts, it enlightens our minds, it enables our wills…it does all the things that are necessary to enable helpless sinners to actually live for God! That’s what grace is.

“For the grace of God that brings salvation has appeared to all men. It teaches us to say No to ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-controlled, upright and godly lives in this present age, while we wait for the blessed hope—the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ, who gave himself for us to redeem us from all wickedness and to purify for himself a people that are his very own, eager to do what is good.” Jesus didn’t come to save us ‘in’ our sins, but ‘from’ them. Praise God!

“These, then, are the things you should teach. Encourage and rebuke with all authority. Do not let anyone despise you.” Now here’s some instruction that has to do with our living in a broken world. How do we relate to people? What do we do with rulers, with government, with sinners that we are among? How do we act? What’s our attitude supposed to be? Okay?

“Remind the people to be subject to rulers and authorities….” That’s a hard one. You think about how hard it was in that day. I mean, we think we’ve got it bad? There were heathen emperors. There were all kinds of stuff going on in that world. And yet, there’s a spirit of humbleness and submission that God was looking for in His people. Trusting, because, the ultimate authority is in heaven anyway. He’s over all. He’s more interested in changing us than He is in changing the world. You know, we want to change the world so that it’s more comfortable for us! God is interested in changing us! He’s gonna use the evil of the world to do that, to work in us.

All right, “…To be obedient, to be ready to do whatever is good, to slander no one….” Oh God, how easy it is to do that. I mean, we’re all guilty. Lord have mercy, you look at some news stories and then you look at the commentary underneath, and wow!

( laughing ).

They don’t quite have missiles, but it’s close. Verbal missiles, and slander and anger and all kinds of…boy, that’s the spirit of the age. But God is looking for a different kind of spirit from us. “…To slander no one, to be peaceable and considerate…” And how about this one? “…And to show true humility toward all men.”

Think about that. God, give us that grace to be like Jesus, to not make these instant, negative judgments that basically set us up as Pharisees. But listen to how he puts this into perspective. This isn’t just an instruction, ‘this-is-the-way-it-ought-to-be.’ Listen to the explanation. “At one time we too were foolish, disobedient, deceived and enslaved by all kinds of passions and pleasures.”

You don’t have to be caught by a particular thing to be caught by something. And whether you have grown up in a place where you are sheltered from a lot of the behaviors you might look down on, you’ve got the same nature. You get the right circumstances, you and I are capable of anything! We have no right to look in the mirror and say, you’re better than anybody else. We are not! Oh, I’ll tell you, that’s one of the greatest revelations anybody could have…that we’re sinners, helpless, needing rescue, needing a Savior, enslaved…that’s what sin does.

“We lived in malice and envy, being hated and hating one another. But…” Now we’re gonna get the perspective. We were in the same condition, but how did God react? Did He come down with thunders of denunciation and say, what’s the matter with you? Straighten up and fly right! What did He do? It says, “But when the kindness and love…” Kindness! Boy, it’s not our nature to be kind to a lot of people. Oh, they get us all upset! But here’s the Spirit of God…kind.

“…Kindness and love of God our Savior appeared, he saved us, not because of righteous things we had done, but because of his mercy.” He didn’t look at a single thing and say, that qualifies you. Nothing qualified me! He showed mercy. I did not deserve it. “He saved us through the washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit.” He didn’t just come and rearrange my behavior. He changed the inside. That’s what real salvation is about. It’s us just coming to the end of ourselves and casting ourselves upon the promise of God, so that He can change us from the heart level out! The behaviors will take care of themselves!

“…Washing of rebirth and renewal by the Holy Spirit, whom he poured out on us generously through Jesus Christ our Savior, so that, having been justified by his grace, we might become heirs having the hope of eternal life.” Now, do we get the perspective as to what kind of people God wants us to be? He wants us to be His, to live with Him. But when we live in a broken world and we see people who are caught by all kinds of things, to have the same kind of a spirit and heart toward men that He’s had toward us. There’s a place that Jesus has won in His Kingdom for a lot of unlikely people.

( congregational response ).

If a murderer happens to hear this, how do you know that God doesn’t have a place in His Kingdom for you? Jesus died for murderers. He was crucified next to one, and said, “…today you will be with me in paradise.” Oh, may God fill us with His life, not doctrines, ideas, and dogmas, but with His life, so that we can have a spirit that is welcoming to people, does not shove people away, does not communicate hatred and rejection and condemnation…no Phariseeism.

God, gives us the kind of spirit that can do that and yet people know where we stand. I want to understand what’s going on. I want to stand for the truth, but I don’t want to do it with a hateful spirit, or a legalistic, Pharisaical spirit. Wouldn’t that be awesome if God would save somebody right in our midst! We could watch the transformation that God did! Not by us trying to make people look like, and act like us. But by sharing the love of God and His saving power with people.

There’s no end to what God can do, if we’ll let Him do the saving and just be an expression of His Life. May God just help us in this and every area to bring glory to Him. Praise God!